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Watching a Clinton Global Initiative event, it occurred to me that every month, there's at least one story about Bill Clinton or Jimmy Carter doing something amazing, something that saves lives, gives dignity, creates opportunity. More stuff that I can keep track of. Hero stuff. And if Obama were to lose in November - which I don't think he will - I don't think anyone believes he'll disappear; he will be out there, knee deep in the mud, fighting the good fight from a thousand places at once.

In contrast, the Bushes aren't doing squat. (Clinton roped Bush Jr. into helping with Haiti briefly, but he faded into the woodwork again.) I don't remember ex-Pres Reagan doing much, or Ford. Democratic presidents, it seems, remain engaged in public life when they retire. Republican presidents retire.

It puts the lie to the idea that Republicans are compassionate people who believe in charity, but think it needs to come from private citizens instead of the government. The most prominent Republicans, once they're out of government, with wealth and time and influence, do not help. The Democrats do.

I think it's not about where help comes from. I think the Democrats believe it is possible to help people, and the Republicans do not. The Republicans are fatalists. It might even be accurate to say the Republicans believe you should not help people, because helping fucks with God's plan.

American Christianity was perhaps irredeemably perverted by the Cold War, which set up a dualism between Christian Democracy and the Godless Communists. By the book, Christianity follows the notion that the strongest are called on to work the hardest, and that we are obligated to look after the poor, weak, or outcast, and indeed liberation theology has taken firm root in South America. In the U.S., since Communists are Godless, it follows that the God-fearing among us must be the opposite of Communist, and must oppose any kind of social program or redistribution of wealth. Tithing should go to the church, not the needy. People are poor because God is punishing or testing them, and if they haven't gotten themselves out, it's because they are sinners.

This line of thinking takes us back to Divine Right of Kings. Government of and for the 1% indeed.

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Re: Part 1

[valancy_jane]

I probably put it badly, but I guess my confusion is: how is it this group is doing good things, but so many others in this larger group aren't? What do these people have that, for example, those presidents lack? What makes them different? You point out several possibilities, all of which I agree with; I just wish it were more widespread. I wish I could understand why some really do the private action they talk about, and others don't. More, I just wish it wasn't so.

But as you say: good people doing good things. Even if it's not everyone, as I wish it were.

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[rinue]

And for the record, you know I love your Dad and enjoy spending time with him. (Which I don't say to take you to task - your relationship to him is dramatically different. I sympathize.) Aside from everything else, he's an extremely generous person. And is someone who loves fixing and teaching, with the credentials and intelligence to be able to do it well. Although at the moment we're on opposite ends of the political spectrum, I'd have to be blind to not see that he's compassionate and admirable.

As for the difference between him and the Republican officeholders, I think his disinterest in heading his department says it all. He doesn't want to be the guy who takes credit for fixing things, occupying his time protecting his power. He wants to be the guy on the ground, fixing things.

Probably the difficulties with your dad come from a few things that aren't easy to fix and may just have to be shrugged off.

1. When he grew up, wealth disparities in the US were not as great and there was a higher degree of social mobility. So his experience of how the world works is markedly different than the way the world now works, and he formed his opinions about the basics of life in a system that only superficially resembled ours.

2. And that time had a huge underclass. He went to a segregated high school, for instance. I'm not saying that to call him a racist - he went to Oak Cliff Pres, for goodness sake, a church that was openly in support of integration. But I don't think it's possible to grow up a white guy in that situation and not internalize your privilege.

3. There's a huge emotional difference between being generous and giving away 10% of what you earn and being taxed 10% of what you earn. In a practical sense, it's the same (in that if you're tithing it you are not directly controlling how it's spent any more than when it's given to the government, and aren't thanked directly any more than you are thanked for government services), but from the standpoint of feelings, we're horrified when something that's "ours" is taken from us.

(For example, if you're given 25 cents for bringing in a reusable grocery bag, you feel nice about it, but you'd be bringing in the bag anyway. Whereas if you're charged 5 cents for each plastic bag the store gives you, people freak out and boycott the store and go to town council meetings to complain about it, because "it's the principle," and if the 5 cent charge stands everybody everybody everybody brings a bag to avoid it.)

This is part of why I love auto deposit; all I see is how much money I make. Whereas if I check my paystub I see the taxes withheld, which makes them "my" money being taken - money that I never had in the first place and didn't budget for. There's also a lot of evidence that if your tax form looks like a bill - like a phone bill or something, not even anything that lists your government services - people respond more favorably to it, because we have the sense that we're paying our bills, but that taxes are being taken from us.

Re: Part 1

[(Anonymous)]

I think you hit on something really fundamental when you talked about his experience in high school. He just – his experience is that he had the worst. Amongst the people he knew he really did. He was incredibly poor for a white guy in that time going to that school. My mother still tears up when she talks about how little he and his family had back then. He was the poorest kid she knew. He sees it as he did it, so why can't everyone else? It even bears out in his community activism – who does he help? Kids at my high school who are interested in science. Women in the engineering program. not to belittle what he does, of course. It makes sense he would help people who share the same interests as him – he knows how to help people interested in engineering because he is an engineer. But at the same time, it does show how he was formed and how he applies that to the world. They are people that he can see making the same efforts he did. Whereas he struggles to understand the kinds of things that I think the Democratic Party is rightly focusing on.

I wonder if the fundamental difference between Democratic and Republican really is just a question of broadening one's perspective. maybe that's so obvious. But to me it is kind of a revelation.

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[valancy_jane]

Doh, that was me. Didn't realize I was not logged in.

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[rinue]

The way I think of it is all of us are looking to protect our tribe. It's just that some of us define our family as our family and some of us define our family as everyone in the world.

One of the things I've been watching with curiosity is to see how this tea party/ultraconservative shift hard to the right impacts voter identification. There's a thing going on about defining a "true" or "pure" Republican, and those who don't toe the Norquist line are out. Dems will show up in greater numbers for a more liberal candidate, but we don't throw anybody out of the party. (Sort of Joe Lieberman. But only sort of.) I don't know whether that will make the Republicans more graspable by giving them a defined brand ("I know what they stand for") or whether they're going to go down in flames because they only want the "right" people to vote for them, which takes you a limited distance in an elected government.

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[(Anonymous)]

I don't know whether that will make the Republicans more graspable by giving them a defined brand ("I know what they stand for") or whether they're going to go down in flames because they only want the "right" people to vote for them, which takes you a limited distance in an elected government

It seems to me that they accomplished the former in the 1980s but they are likely to accomplish the latter in this current era. Or maybe I just am hoping that people have grown a little.