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rinue ([personal profile] rinue) wrote2012-03-21 01:57 am
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Quality

Ciro and I were talking about our respective relationships with Ed and Val, and it occurred to me that the quality that makes a best friend is that they assume you know what you're talking about and work forward from there instead of questioning your data.
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Attentiveness

[personal profile] movingfinger 2012-03-22 08:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes! yes, yes, yes.

Another quality, possibly a corollary, is a willingness to listen without demanding context because they can fill that in from what you've said in the past! Following leaps from one subject to another, as they come.


That said, I do have a friend who occasionally speaks in such oblique and cryptic terms that I absolutely must pull her up short and demand context because otherwise I just won't know what we're discussing.

[That said, I am always glad to have my friends question my data and context because I am such an unreliable witness, even unto myself...]
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Re: Attentiveness

[personal profile] valancy_jane 2012-04-01 03:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Love you. :D

In an odd turnabout, C and I had a dear friend of his over to dinner, who is leaving town. It has been so long really since (outside my father) I have had to face someone who has diametrically different, and frankly unsubstantiated, views, that the dinner was incredibly difficult. I really, really tried my hardest to be a good host, but I'm afraid I wasn't able to always contain myself. (Topics included "why men don't have parenting instincts and [biological] mothers are meant to take care of children" and "why women shouldn't have power in church," brought up by the fact that I mentioned how proud I was of Carter for taking a stand against the Baptist church, on an oddly circular note.) And I wondered how they could be friends; despite the fact that I love him in my own way, I've also forcibly ejected him from the house before. We have a lot of trouble holding a conversation, much less understanding each other.

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Re: Attentiveness

[personal profile] valancy_jane 2012-04-02 01:30 am (UTC)(link)
You're right about the relationship; I have often wondered how they could get along, but it is exactly that, a doing relationship. Normally I'm more skillfully redirecting conversations, but sometimes it seems the only things he will talk about are politics, religion, and items far too personal for me to want to hear about. Every parry seemed to fail, until finally I gave in in the hopes of rational conversation. Not my best move, alas.

(I was very impressed at how C handled it, I should note.)
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[personal profile] movingfinger 2012-03-22 08:45 pm (UTC)(link)
You know, this is also an important quality in certain kinds of teaching. I just looked over at a project and thought, Yes, the teacher I had for that was like that. Took as a given that what the student wanted to do was a good and reasonable thing and offered assistance and training to help carry it out.